New Starter Choices...Please comment.

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Garbage_Mechanic

Discussion Starter · Jun 15, 2007

I need a new starter for my 96 7.3. I'm posting here because of the bigger # of people up here. I had planned to get one from DB before it failed. Well I may have missed that chance and I'm not giving up my weekend. I wante dto go DB because they are new and an upgrade. I have now found a local rebuilder / warehouse that matched DB with the same units. DB has 3 on their site, my source has 2 of them in stock at prices that match DB including freight.
My first choice is the 4kw Nippondenso (I have heard it described as one big bad starter) at $169.95
They also have the 3.6kw Mitsubishi PLGR at $119 This is a 3 bolt maybe the same as my stock one?
My local source doesn't have the OSGR 3.6 KW 2bolt 2001-2003 unit.
My local guy (who I use for lots of fleet big rig stuff) says the 4kw unit is just more robust and will survive abuse such as extended cranking better than the other.

Any one have any bad experience with the big 4kw Nippondenso?

Cost isn't really the issue, the old one has 200,000 miles on it, so the new one should last 10 more years

Mine: 91 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 5spd 7.3IDI 4.10LS 145,000 miles. Banks Sidewinder 92 D60 F axle w 97 brakes and Powerlock. Lift: about 4" over stock 250. 33x12.50x16.5 Pro Comp MTs Magnaflow 12" muffler. Sees dirt everyday. Used to haul hay, wood, feed cows, check fence.
Hers: 96F250 CCSB 7.3 PSD 4x4 5spd 3.55 LS 190,000 miles. Puchased 7/03, Looked for a 5spd CCSB for a year!Dana 60 front axle, at stock F350 height (for now) Energy Poly bushings, Bilsteins, 305/70/16 Pro Comps on 16x10 Weld Outbacks, AFE Pro7,TYMAR 3x3.5x4 downpipe,TYMAR 5" straightpipe, gutted EBV, IH Non EBV pedistal,New Alliant AC Injectors,(stage 1)Cal reg kit, SBC Con O clutch, permenent clutch bushing fix, AC mod with a different twist, AMP Powersteps with custom brackets and wiring(one of 2 OBS trucks with them according to AMP) Line of Fire. Sees dirt everyday.
My Company pickup: 86 F250 6.9 C6 320,000 miles Co trucks 5 89 to 94 IDI's, plus about 50 more diesels.
Diesel Mechanic 34 yrs Maintenece Manager 23 yrs

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Zedicus

· #4 · Jun 17, 2007

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I just put that starter in our work truck.If it was a 6 speed i could use that starter to drive around.Scared the hell out of my boss when he fired up the truck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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How did it scare him?

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Zedicus

· #5 · Jun 19, 2007

C'mon, I'm itching to know /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Zedicus

· #10 · Jun 20, 2007

Hm, what about this starter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...504890&rd=1,1

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Zedicus

· #18 · Jun 21, 2007

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Hm, what about this starter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...504890&rd=1,1

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That one is the VISTION version. It's a 3.6kw OSGR. I think it only came in the 01-02 PSD. not a real good design. You would be better off with the Denso version.

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ok how about this one? Looks a lot like the Denso Copy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-gear-...sspagenameZWDVW

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Zedicus

· #20 · Jun 22, 2007

what about this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...hlink:middle:us

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Zedicus

· #28 · Jun 26, 2007

According to my local auto electric place & Denso's site, they don't make a ginuine Nippon-Denso starter for the 99+ 7.3 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Zedicus

· #30 · Jun 26, 2007

Apparently even Jeg's sells the denso copy's.

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Zedicus

· #31 · Jun 28, 2007

Pic of the Jeg's Starter, they sell them on ebay for $249.99 w/ $11.99 1-2 day shipping.

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/700/713/713-9051.jpg

(can't embed it for some reason so here is a link)

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Zedicus

· #36 · Jul 1, 2007

How many KW is it?

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Zedicus

· #37 · Jul 1, 2007

Found another starter

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:us

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Zedicus

· #41 · Jul 6, 2007

Just ordered this

will let you guys know how it works out.

had my starter tested (AC Delco), turned out to be a bad solenoid, but no one sells them separately so I had to just get a whole starter (least it was cheaper than the local prices by about half).

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Zedicus

· #43 · Jul 7, 2007

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I just received my replacement from DB. Again, it says all over their ebay and website that its a 4kW motor but the individual spec sheet shows it tested at 3kW. The guy said he doesnt false advertise and that all of them are 4 but now Ive spoken to several other buyers who have 3 kW spec sheets. Interesting.

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Being tested at 3KW & Being rated at 4KW are two entirely different things.

rated at 4KW just means it can handle that kind of peak output.

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Zedicus

· #45 · Jul 13, 2007

Well Starter works great.
starts quicker than the AC Delco one did.

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