That looks like exactly the same thing the other place has. These are not real Nippons but at least the seller you linked to doesnt make that claim like DB Electric (I think thats their name) who also advertises it as a 4kW unit but it came to me as 3kW. He said they dont make 3kW and he has never seen on so he couldnt figure out why I got one. I wouldnt have known if I hadnt read the crumpled spec sheet in the bottom of the box. They are going to ship me another but didnt say anything about paying for sending back what I have. I just emailed the place above to ask about its power rating.
New Starter Choices...Please comment.
I need a new starter for my 96 7.3. I'm posting here because of the bigger # of people up here. I had planned to get one from DB before it failed. Well I may have missed that chance and I'm not giving up my weekend. I wante dto go DB because they are new and an upgrade. I have now found a local rebuilder / warehouse that matched DB with the same units. DB has 3 on their site, my source has 2 of them in stock at prices that match DB including freight.
My first choice is the 4kw Nippondenso (I have heard it described as one big bad starter) at $169.95
They also have the 3.6kw Mitsubishi PLGR at $119 This is a 3 bolt maybe the same as my stock one?
My local source doesn't have the OSGR 3.6 KW 2bolt 2001-2003 unit.
My local guy (who I use for lots of fleet big rig stuff) says the 4kw unit is just more robust and will survive abuse such as extended cranking better than the other.
Any one have any bad experience with the big 4kw Nippondenso?
Cost isn't really the issue, the old one has 200,000 miles on it, so the new one should last 10 more years
My first choice is the 4kw Nippondenso (I have heard it described as one big bad starter) at $169.95
They also have the 3.6kw Mitsubishi PLGR at $119 This is a 3 bolt maybe the same as my stock one?
My local source doesn't have the OSGR 3.6 KW 2bolt 2001-2003 unit.
My local guy (who I use for lots of fleet big rig stuff) says the 4kw unit is just more robust and will survive abuse such as extended cranking better than the other.
Any one have any bad experience with the big 4kw Nippondenso?
Cost isn't really the issue, the old one has 200,000 miles on it, so the new one should last 10 more years
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Sorry forgot i replied here.Its a high torque starter,and its loud when it cranks up.I put the starter in while he was on vacation.
The only thing i dont like about it is its very close to the cross member,if for some reason an engine mount goes the first thing that is going to be destroyed is the starter.
The only thing i dont like about it is its very close to the cross member,if for some reason an engine mount goes the first thing that is going to be destroyed is the starter.
I put a Denso Hight Trk starter in and posted about the close fit. It was so close I hacked a peice out fo the Cross member to give it some breathing room. TO me it's no louder than the stocker is just a deaper tone.
Well, mines a strange sounding thing. Almost like its wobbling on it bolts but again to tooth grinding noise. Im sending it back since the company still wont address my questions about their advertising, its kW power difference, etc. Maybe sometimes when things look too good to be true---
Also noticed a vibration. Mine cleared the crossmember by about 1/8 or so with engine off but while engine is on and moving a tad, the back of the starter case is hitting and causing noise. I had to get under there with the engine on to see it. DAG NAB it anyway.
Also noticed a vibration. Mine cleared the crossmember by about 1/8 or so with engine off but while engine is on and moving a tad, the back of the starter case is hitting and causing noise. I had to get under there with the engine on to see it. DAG NAB it anyway.
Was this starter from DB Electrical?
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Was this starter from DB Electrical?
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Was this starter from DB Electrical?
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Yep
I like to read posts and take notes for a later time - like when my starter dies.
SO....where does a guy go to get a genuine Nippondenso starter? It sounds like DB Electrical is selling an off-shore copy? or did I miss something while following this thread? I like to save $$ just like the next guy but, I would much rather go for quality.
Thaks in advance,
Jon in American Fork
SO....where does a guy go to get a genuine Nippondenso starter? It sounds like DB Electrical is selling an off-shore copy? or did I miss something while following this thread? I like to save $$ just like the next guy but, I would much rather go for quality.
Thaks in advance,
Jon in American Fork
Well, there we go then. No wonder they are so cheap. They sure are heavy suckers.
Iwas told today that they were sending me a new unit with a prepaid return for this one. Guy said he had never seen a 3kW from that company and all were supposed to b3 4kW. Couldnt understand it. I can. I offended God in a past life.
Iwas told today that they were sending me a new unit with a prepaid return for this one. Guy said he had never seen a 3kW from that company and all were supposed to b3 4kW. Couldnt understand it. I can. I offended God in a past life.
Apparently even Jeg's sells the denso copy's.
Pic of the Jeg's Starter, they sell them on ebay for $249.99 w/ $11.99 1-2 day shipping.
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/700/713/713-9051.jpg
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http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/700/713/713-9051.jpg
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According to my local auto electric place & Denso's site, they don't make a ginuine Nippon-Denso starter for the 99+ 7.3 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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That is true. Denso did not make a starter for the 7.3 however, IMI Performance is the only one that I know of that uses an OEM Nippondeso platform and has there own mounting plates. They do everthing from farm equipment to NHRA funny cars.
Hope this helps
Big E
According to my local auto electric place & Denso's site, they don't make a ginuine Nippon-Denso starter for the 99+ 7.3 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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That is true. Denso did not make a starter for the 7.3 however, IMI Performance is the only one that I know of that uses an OEM Nippondeso platform and has there own mounting plates. They do everthing from farm equipment to NHRA funny cars.
Hope this helps
Big E
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Pic of the Jeg's Starter, they sell them on ebay for $249.99 w/ $11.99 1-2 day shipping.
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/700/713/713-9051.jpg
[/ QUOTE ] That isn't the same as the one I got or the DB one. The one I have has only 2 mounting bolts and I believe the motor is bigger. However I think I like the Jegs one better....
Pic of the Jeg's Starter, they sell them on ebay for $249.99 w/ $11.99 1-2 day shipping.
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/700/713/713-9051.jpg
[/ QUOTE ] That isn't the same as the one I got or the DB one. The one I have has only 2 mounting bolts and I believe the motor is bigger. However I think I like the Jegs one better....
Yeah I looked at the jegs. Its not 4kW like the DB but I do like the stability of the three bolts. DB claims they have never had a single problem because of that. There is that pesky darned CLEARANCE problem though. Mine vibrates agsint the cross member and I have to go to a welding shop to cut some clearance.
I just found the spec sheet for the starter I put in my truck in a couple of months ago. The starter, ordered in February from dbelectrical, looks suspiciously similar to that offered by Oklahoma Starter, yet the spec sheet says it is 3Kw! I do not care. It fit with enough clearance and turns the truck over amazingly fast.
Thats the thing---my spec sheet also says 3kW but DB insistes that they are all 4kW. I think something funny is going on. Again, its guge compared to stock but it doesnt turn mine over much faster than stock. This is puzzling. And, just after starting to turn over there is a strange sound almost like a knocking but not the sound of teeth stripping. Maybe mines bad. They are sending me a new one this week and Ill bet its spec sheet also says 3kW
Mine spins over faster. Brian Thompson said I would have had to crank at least twice as long before the engine fired with the OEM starter after we had opened up the HPOP to install dual pumps and new injectors.
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