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I actually thought it was kind of witty, but then again I was in the military for 9 years (plus 4 years of military school) and have heard a lot more "wittier" sayings. I guess I am just not easily offended.
People are always going to express themselves. Some of those expressions are going to offend you, and others won't. It is hard to draw a line.
My red-neck sister in law uses expressions that would make a sailor blush, and she uses these witty statements in front of her kid's and everyone elses. Man, it is hard to believe how crude she can be.
The language we use is an expression of ourselves, as well as our refinement.
I too have been known to use 4 letter words to express myself (though i am working on it--and Smokey is doing his best to keep me in line), as i am sure most folks around here have too. I'm not proud of it, just a fact.
Bottom line is that the user has to live with his/her expressions and choice of words.
If you don't like it, don't read it--and definitely don't repeat it.
I've always been impressed with this board--very little swearing and foul language use. It is impressive and a testament to the quality of folks here. But guys will be guys (and gals will be gals) and every now and again, we will probably get a little too colorful. Some of the statements make me blush, while others make me laugh.
Let's just not get all too high and mighty, and keep things around here fun.
Just my $.02.

By the way, DirtFarmer, I did notice that your signature contained the word "stripper."


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Not only a 'stripper', but an 'XL RC stripper' at that!

..... now we have the Dodge boys and overweight Roman Catholic exotic dancers offended and we're only into the 3rd post.

But, in all seriouseness ( is it too late for that ), I agree that these forums are no place for bad language, play(s) on words, dirty jokes etc etc . There is quite a cross-section of users on here, from the 'kids' of regular contributors to groups of grade school and high school students.

I think Kevin said it awhile back on another post ..... there are hundreds of really pleasant words to choose from, so lets just use them .... or something like that!!

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Oh my gosh! Where's SmokeyWren and his editing hand when we need him most.
There's more foul language on this thread than there is on the whole site! You guys really have helped clean things up around here.
 

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I agree with Dirt Farmer, I think it's juvenile to have those lines in a signature. I'm sure plenty others think they're cute and all but I just see them as tasteless and something I wouldn't want my kids seeing on this site.
 
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I would hate to add this site to the list of ones "off-limits" but I do not think I will have to. the moderators and Jason will do the right thing.(hint hint)
 

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I think it's funny and if I had a Dodge I would have that bumper sticker I even told that to my mom. I've heard a lot worse in grade school and I got out in 5th grade.

Dann I thought that was funny. Thanks for the laugh


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If one want to insult someone, there are so many intricate and lovely ways to do this without becoming crude, as these signature lines are.

Permit me an allusion to Cyrano de Bergerac, when some made a crude remark about the size of his olfactory organ. He might have replied to such a signature line thusly:

"Signature lines like these are puerile and vacuous. They show a coarseness of character and a lack of wit. They have all the subtlety of a whoopie cushion and none of its charm. Electronicus flatulus is their genus and species. Common decency, which is becoming less common as we become more common, should preclude their utterance, even electronically, from an even marginally sentient being."

You see, it is easy to insult someone without being as crude as these signature lines.

Just in case you missed the point, I am not at all making these statements that Cyrano would have uttered, were he here to teach us about the art of insult as practiced in the higher social circles. I am merely speculating about what he might have said, were he here.


I personally have no opinion about these signature lines that I am willing to share. I am simply showing that with a little effort, the point can be gotten across without relying on crudities and double entendres. English is a lovely language, full of nuance, perfect for the cut and thrust of verbal jousting. A small effort on one's part will result in an insult that is a joy to behold.

Of course, there are those who say we should not try to insult anyone deliberately and given the propensity for violence inherent in man's troubled soul, I would have to agree.

For those wishing to take offense, I apologize profusely for my transgression and remind everyone that we are talking about signature lines here, not the person himself, who is in all probability, someone of sterling character and bonhomie. Signature lines and Cyrano's objection to them have nothing to do with the person himself. So do not take anything here as any kind of judgment on anyone.

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Kreynol2,

I think I speak for most people when I say, Huh? I have half a mind to be offened if I had any clue what you just called everyone.

As for the signatures, I don't really have an opinion. I did find it rather amusing but, I personnal would never have one like that and if I had kids I would prefer they not see that.
 

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J.C., it is not meant to be offensive, just to give you a laugh.


Certainly I was not trying offend anyone here, just showing that English is a beautiful language to express oneself in, without resorting to crassness.

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I have seen more than one person on this board end their sig with "still strokin and ain't even close to cummin'", so it is not a Dodge thing. Doesn't bother me no matter who posts it. If you have ever spent time on a farm, in high school, on a boat, in the military, etc., you will hear stuff alot more vulgar than this harmless little thing. I guess I have always been of the school of thought that words have only as much power as you give them. I mean, c'mon, you hear more offensive stuff on the Tonight Show...
 

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Hey Kevin I thought you were giving us compliments and kuddos????
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You have a command of the english language that many of us wish we had. I did not understand a dad gummed word of it?????????
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Some of the sigs do go a little to far, of course the gun-grabbers don't like mine for sure. I am going to have to figure out how to add bold QUACKS to mine:.

s to all,

Ed

P:S: On edit I see we can only use eight smilesin a post now?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobR:
I also think that the comment in question is definitely NOT witty.

Good grief - how is this for a witty sig:

"I like #######"(didn't even want to repeat that)

Not funny? Neither is the one DF mentioned.

Bob
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What was that for?
Uncalled for.
Almost wish you would use different user name after that one. Wouldn't want to confuse anyone. Please keep it clean.
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Kevin, what does the size of a persons air cleaner have ot do with the signatures?

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I sometimes see Dodge owners messages followed by the signature line "I used to be strokin, but now I'm cummin". I find this to be extremely juvenile and disgusting, and not at all witty or clever.

Note to those with that sig line - Grow Up.

I think we can all live without graffic descriptions of sexual activities on this board.

My apologies for posting this offensive material, but I wanted to give my $0.02 about this incredibly stupid form of expression.


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I totally agree. I thought I might have been a little hypersensitive about this. I am glad to see there is support for this. In fact I referenced this type of silliness in another thread that criticized our BB in the 94-97 forum.

This stuff wreaks of the TDR and I would hate to see this site fall to the level of what content is allowed over there.

I will do what I can to clean it up.... I already started with deleting the offensive one above.

Thanks guys

Keith Anderson
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Thank you Keith!!!

Jim, Cyrano's schnozzola was famously huge. At one point, someone made a remark about it meant to humiliate him, and Cyrano responded by showing him how to TRULY insult someone. He was making the point that the original insult was a weak thing, and that language existed to make a much more artful and thus effective insult, but that the original insulter had not the intelligence to offer much more than a puny effort.

Of course, in doing so, Cyrano was reminding us of the pain he has suffered at the hands of an callous public, simply because he was different.

Short synopsis from elsewhere on the web:
Cyrano de Bergerac (1897) - A poetic, romantic drama set in the reign of Louis XIII. The central character, Cyrano, is a famous swordsman, and an aspiring poet-lover. Because of his grotesquely large nose "that marches on / before me by a quarter of an hour," he is convinced that he is too ugly to deserve his adored Roxane. Cyrano helps his inarticulate rival, Christian, win her heart by allowing him to present Cyrano's love poems, speeches, and letters as his own work. Soon the romance starts, Christian whispers his own love from the shadows in glorious words that Roxane believes are his. But Christian realizes that it was not his own good looks but Cyrano's letters that won Roxanne. Before his death on the battlefield, Christian asks Cyrano to confess their plot to Roxanne. Cyrano keeps their secret for fisteen years. As he is dying years later, he visits Roxanne and reveals her the truth. - The play opened at the Porte Saint-Martin Theater in December 1897. Cyrano's gallantry was seen as the reincarnation of the true Gallic spirit and Rostand became a national hero.

On edit:

Act 1, scene 4 is just too juicy to let pass. Here is the section I was referring to:

CYRANO:
Ah no! young blade! That was a trifle short!
You might have said at least a hundred things
By varying the tone. . .like this, suppose,. . .
Aggressive: 'Sir, if I had such a nose
I'd amputate it!' Friendly: 'When you sup
It must annoy you, dipping in your cup;
You need a drinking-bowl of special shape!'
Descriptive: ''Tis a rock!. . .a peak!. . .a cape!
--A cape, forsooth! 'Tis a peninsular!'
Curious: 'How serves that oblong capsular?
For scissor-sheath? Or pot to hold your ink?'
Gracious: 'You love the little birds, I think?
I see you've managed with a fond research
To find their tiny claws a roomy perch!'
Truculent: 'When you smoke your pipe. . .suppose
That the tobacco-smoke spouts from your nose--
Do not the neighbors, as the fumes rise higher,
Cry terror-struck: "The chimney is afire"?'
Considerate: 'Take care,. . .your head bowed low
By such a weight. . .lest head o'er heels you go!'
Tender: 'Pray get a small umbrella made,
Lest its bright color in the sun should fade!'
Pedantic: 'That beast Aristophanes
Names Hippocamelelephantoles
Must have possessed just such a solid lump
Of flesh and bone, beneath his forehead's bump!'
Cavalier: 'The last fashion, friend, that hook?
To hang your hat on? 'Tis a useful crook!'
Emphatic: 'No wind, O majestic nose,
Can give THEE cold!--save when the mistral blows!'
Dramatic: 'When it bleeds, what a Red Sea!'
Admiring: 'Sign for a perfumery!'
Lyric: 'Is this a conch?. . .a Triton you?'
Simple: 'When is the monument on view?'
Rustic: 'That thing a nose? Marry-come-up!
'Tis a dwarf pumpkin, or a prize turnip!'
Military: 'Point against cavalry!'
Practical: 'Put it in a lottery!
Assuredly 'twould be the biggest prize!'
Or. . .parodying Pyramus' sighs. . .
'Behold the nose that mars the harmony
Of its master's phiz! blushing its treachery!'
--Such, my dear sir, is what you might have said,
Had you of wit or letters the least jot:
But, O most lamentable man!--of wit
You never had an atom, and of letters
You have three letters only!--they spell Ass!
And--had you had the necessary wit,
To serve me all the pleasantries I quote
Before this noble audience. . .e'en so,
You would not have been let to utter one--
Nay, not the half or quarter of such jest!
I take them from myself all in good part,
But not from any other man that breathes!


The entire text of the play, translated into English, can be found at ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/etext/gutenberg/etext98/cdben10.txt


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Kevin,
I can't even read that stuff. Not refined enough, I guess.

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Yep, it can get pretty dense. But the GOOD NEWS is that I'm all done indulging myself. Back to the thread!


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Carpentractor and others:

No problem that my post got zapped.

But I hope that it doesn't turn out to be the case that it is OK to include disgusting graffic material in your sig, but NOT OK to object to it in a clearly marked forum for that purpose.

IMO, my mention of the dreaded F word was less graffic than the mental picture presented by the "s*****n and c****n".

That was my whole point - neither of those expressions has any place on a public forum.
 
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