[workerbee47]

Just thought some of you guys might find this interesting. I have a 03 F-350 SD Crew Cab 6.0L Diesel, with a Magnaflow 4" Turbo-Back Exhaust. I just added a Airaid Cold Air System, and a Superchip #1704. Wow, what a differents, even with the Superchip set on the Tow-Haul, But with the Superchip set on High Performance here are the approximate HP/Torque that I am getting. Stock Truck = 325hp/560ft-lbs, Airaid cold air system = 10hp/12ft-lbs, Magnaflow 4" Turbo-Back Exhaust = 12hp/38ft-lbs, Superchip #1704 set at High Performance = 80hp/115ft-lbs. For a grand total of 427HP/725FT-LBS Torque, even on the low setting of the Superchip it puts out about 387HP/680FT/LBS Torque. I have about $950.00 invested in these three items to get this kind of HP and Torque. THIS TRUCK REALLY ROCKS ON THE HIGH PERFORMANCE SETTING. I do not plan on leaving it there, just wanted to play with it a bit. Will probably run it on its economy setting, that will give me a added 50HP/85FT-LBS Torque, for a total of 397HP/695FT-LBS Torque.

 

[ktpauley]

Did you got those numbers by putting your truck on a dyno? The 325 HP is at the crankshaft not the rear wheels. Keith

 

[lubeowner]

I thought the Superchips 1704 added 150 hp in the performance setting.
SO, 150 + 12 + 15 + 325 your at like 507. WOW I wish someone would have thought of this like 4 years ago. LMAO.

I am sorry but you are really going to get bashed over your post. I couldn't resist. I am glad you really like your truck. They really go with a programmer, don't they. Diesel engines have alot of hidden potential.

Think about the difference between stock and your truck on the performance setting. If you had the SCT you would get almost that same increase in feel again.

 

[brassc]

I wouldn't put too much stock in advertised horsepower gains. Unless you dyno your truck you don't know what you have. But then again, a trip to the dyno may disappoint you.

 

[FamilyRide]

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I am sorry but you are really going to get bashed over your post.

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Why would you say that?

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I couldn't resist.

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Ya, I know why you would say that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif I can. It's not easy, but I'm trying real hard to resist. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif



FYI, you can never, never, add advertised HP/trq claims together to get a total. Their "claims" are based on their claimed gain from that one change. Once you add other changes, their "gain" is changed.

Even running the HP tune, you aren't at 400RWHP. Yes, it runs strong (although someone's going to come along and bash Superchips and talk up SCT). And there's no reason not to run the HP tune all the time if you're driving style/needs are within the parameters they set, unless you feel you're going to pound on it all the time. It's a decent and safe tune but if you hammer on it, it's going to increase your risk of tearing something up.

Hold on, because I'm sure you have quite a bit of ribbing coming. Take it in stride and know most are just razzing you, a few will provide god feedback and yet a few others will just spew blabber and venom but just ignore them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

 

[superf350]

Yep, back in my 7.3 days I thought I had a pretty powerful truck with stageII injectors and propane till Nancy put a stompin on me with her 6.0 by 30HP with just an edge box! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vulnerable.gif

 

[snoboy]

workerbee47 here are some real world numbers for you.

http://www.[censored].com/projects/Shootoutreport.pdf

 

[ktpauley]

I haven't dnoed with Innovative's extreme street tune yet. With a AFE stage 2 intake, and MBRP turboback duals 304HP/621TQ. Keith

 

[1SickHarley]

Mmmmmmmmm...... nope. I'm stayin outta this one.

 

[rubberducky]

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workerbee47 here are some real world numbers for you.

.com/projects/Shootoutreport.pdf]http://www.[censored].com/projects/Shootoutreport.pdf

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One of the many reasons this site drives me nuts. What the hell is wrong with linking to another site? So childlike. Oh my god, they might see that other site name and go over there instead of here.

 

[workerbee47]

Hey, Thanks everyone for the feed back, yes I know that the HP/ft.lbs is not exact, and I did say right at the begining of my post that they were approxomate. I just took what each company said that there gain was with that product and added it all up, but boy it sure stired up some conversation. As for the output of the 1704, I went to Superchips web site and that is what it said there, and on the box. It has 3 power settings 40hp, 50hp, and 80hp, I don't know, could be more HP, just repeating what I read, sure feals like alot more HP to me. I just know that the bottom line is when I say Giddy-Up, She Really Turns Loose Alot Of Horse's. Last night after I opened it up to High Performance and went out and played with it for a bit, I had exited off the highway to turn around and come back down the highway, and before I was at the bottom of the entrance ramp I was doing just over 80, it just pushes you back into the seat and holds you there til you get off the throttle. It would be fun to put it on a dyno and see what the real HP/torque is, but what ever it is, it has impressed the sh-- out of me. And just for the record, I am not some young kid with a big diesel truck for a toy, I am 53, and I do not see speed limit sign's as a challenge anymore, Well maybe after last night I will for a day or two, and then reality will set back in, but Dam it was fun, like driving a high performance Mustang.

 

[FamilyRide]

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workerbee47 here are some real world numbers for you.

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One of the many reasons this site drives me nuts. What the hell is wrong with linking to another site? So childlike. Oh my god, they might see that other site name and go over there instead of here.

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There was a good reason for it. If you were around then you'd know what I'm talking about. Is it necessary now? Maybe not, but someone thinks what happened the 1st time was enough to keep it that way.

 

[FamilyRide]

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Hey, Thanks everyone for the feed back, yes I know that the HP/ft.lbs is not exact, and I did say right at the begining of my post that they were approxomate. I just took what each company said that there gain was with that product and added it all up, but boy it sure stired up some conversation. As for the output of the 1704, I went to Superchips web site and that is what it said there, and on the box. It has 3 power settings 40hp, 50hp, and 80hp, I don't know, could be more HP, just repeating what I read, sure feals like alot more HP to me. I just know that the bottom line is when I say Giddy-Up, She Really Turns Loose Alot Of Horse's. Last night after I opened it up to High Performance and went out and played with it for a bit, I had exited off the highway to turn around and come back down the highway, and before I was at the bottom of the entrance ramp I was doing just over 80, it just pushes you back into the seat and holds you there til you get off the throttle. It would be fun to put it on a dyno and see what the real HP/torque is, but what ever it is, it has impressed the sh-- out of me. And just for the record, I am not some young kid with a big diesel truck for a toy, I am 53, and I do not see speed limit sign's as a challenge anymore, Well maybe after last night I will for a day or two, and then reality will set back in, but Dam it was fun, like driving a high performance Mustang.

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I'm not sure why they never did anything about it, but what they have on the box is based on tuners for gas motors. It's always bugged me. As for the web-site, they may have changed the way they comment on gains. Originally it was 150HP for the HP tune which was true, but was peak up in the 3500RPM range, not peak to stock peak which is like 2800 RPM where the increase was only 80-90HP. That's what everyone else used, so it appeared skewed when they did it the other way; but it does make a lot more power way up the RPM range. If you'll push it to 100MPH, you'll find it's still pulling hard. It can be scary.

They got blasted for there HP gain method, and rightfully so based on what all other products used which was a more fair comparison to stock.

 

[HideOut]

with those ads in the tow mode you are gonna be maybe 350ish, max, Id say more like 330. STock is in the 250 range

 

[workerbee47]

Hay guys, Thanks for all the imput, I like the info. about cleaning the Airaid every 5K, that was helpful. I did just add up all the added HP from the results that the companys had posted on their sites that showed the gains that they got from their add ons, and I know that is not a true HP test for my truck, and that they are probably taking it from the flywheel, but none the less, having added the Magnaflow Exhaust, Airaid Cold Air Intake System, FS-2500 By Pass Filter, and the Superchip, and having it set on high performance, I have now run my truck for week on this set-up, I towed my fishing boat this weekend, and with my empty miles and my tow miles I averaged 17.1mpg, not to bad from the fact that I was playing with my new add on's a bit, and the add'ed power when I asked for it was amazing. My next investment is going to be to add gauges (exhaust, boost, trans.),I have not been disapointed with anything that I have done at this point to my truck, I have gone form about 15mpg to 17mpg. I run about 28 tp 30,000 miles a year, and at $2.89 per gal. that is about $600.00 a year savings, and as the fuel costs go up, so does the savings. Bottom line here is that I am very pleased with the changes that I have made in my truck, it runs better, accelerate's better, and just all in all seems to be a better truck. Thanks again everyone for your imput, keep the comments coming, I have alot to learn about this and all of your imput is appreciated.

 

[p8ntballn2]

I'm no expert on this sort of stuff, so if i'm totally wrong ya'll can forget this.. but when those company's put those HP/TQ gains out there... that the average gain with just that one product... if you add an exhaust and intake.. 1 claims 10 HP gain and the other 15 HP.. that doesn't mean you gain 25 HP..

 

[workerbee47]

Yep, I think you are right, but none the less, if you put on a new air intake, 4" exhaust, and the superchip set on High Performance, You will have alot more HP then you started with, and I am still very happy with the improvements, What a difference, Truck runs great. I would like to put it on a dyno and see just what it is putting out. But it is Wild, Really made a truck out of it.

 

[rws444psd]

mabye the new superchips 1805 tuner like i just bought are puttinn more power then the old superchips tuners? i got a 7.3 motor, and it feels like my 86 5.0 mustang gt. now. and 3 more mpgs too.