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I am considering ordering an f-250 for myself in the near future (thanks to some of your suggestions) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif . I just wanted to see what was involved with that? What do I pay when ordering? How long does it usually take to get a custom ordered truck in? When/how can I use my X plan pin#? Am I still intitled to rebates...? It may seem to be a dumb question but I assume I order at the dealership? Any other things I should consider? thanks for your help.
 

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from my experiance it was 500 down and some rebates were limeted to inventory only so read carefully but I did read the x plan is ok for special orders IMHO oh and when I was looking it was 6 weeks to build Z
 

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Order at the dealership. Rebates are good for that day only. They have expiration dates but they can also go away before the expiration date (I lost a $500 rebate....expired 1/2/08 but went away in November). The dealer will have X-Plan pricing and mine didn't need any info from me. Get the ordering guide from the dealer or PM me and I'll email you mine. Took 5 weeks to get my truck after the order date.
 

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I ordered my F-450, it took three months from order date to delivery. I did not have to put any money down to order, though I am a repeat buyer at this dealership(Sheehy Ford, Marlow Heights, commercial sales). I informed my salesperson up front that I had a X-plan pin#, one of the requirements of using a X-plan is that you have to inform the dealer before price is talked about. Rebates I received were those that were in effect on the day I actually took possesion, not the day that I ordered the truck. You can either buy off the lot,or if your salesperson will, he/she can get the truck you want from another local dealership. I wanted something unusual, that being a Lariat with manual transfer case/manual hubs, so I ordered my truck. Sure nice driving the truck off the lot with only 3 miles on the odometer, knowing some jackass did not previously take my new truck on a joyride.
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: grizzard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What do I pay when ordering? </div></div>

It varies all over the board. Anywhere from nothing if the dealer knows you and your family from generations back, and you have a good credit rating, and then you order a "normal" vehicle that he would love to have in stock.

But if you want a truck that only a mother could love, and the dealer doesn't want it in stock because it would be too hard to sell to somebody else, then he'll probably want a healthy deposit equal to a normal down payment of 10 to 20 percent.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How long does it usually take to get a custom ordered truck in? </div></div>

Most common is 6 or 7 weeks. Some make it in 5 weeks and some take 8 weeks. More than 8 weeks is relatively rare during "normal" production runs. The assembly plant usually closes for two weeks in the winter and two weeks in the summer. so if you order before that break, then add a coupla weeks to the "normal" time. Like right now, the winter break is probably scheduled for about the same time as the school "winter" or Christmas break. So if you order right now, then "normal" would be 8 to 10 weeks. But if you wait until after school cranks back up in January, then the 6 or 7 week schedule would be "normal".

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When/how can I use my X plan pin#? </div></div>

Talk only to a manager, such as a fleet manager, new truck manager, new car manager, general manager or dealer. don't waste time talking to lot lizzards or salespersons.

Don't mention price until after you have your X-Plan PIN in hand. Then the only discussion should be "Will you sell or order me a new F-250 under the X-Plan?" If the manager says yes, you are through negotiating price and ready to order your vehicle.

Right now, download the order guide from http://www.sunrisefordfleet.com/ - go through it with a fine-tooth comb and decide exactly what you are going to order and what you are not going to order. Then make a list of all the specs and options to make it easy for the manager to key your order into the computer.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Am I still intitled to rebates...? </div></div>

Yes, but only the "national" and "public" rebates effective on the day you take delivery of the new vehicle.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It may seem to be a dumb question but I assume I order at the dealership? </div></div>

If you don't already have a good buddy that's a manager at a local dealership, and you don't have a trade-in or lease return, then I'd order from Bobby Williams at that website above where you downloaded the order guide. Bobby will take excellent care of you during that several-week wait for the new truck to be delivered. Bobby can have it delivered to any Ford dealer in your neck of the woods, or you can go to the Los Angeles area to take delivery. Your choice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Any other things I should consider? </div></div>

If you don't order from Bobby, then put on your list that you insist on a priced DORA be given to you not more than two business days after your order is processed into the Ford computer. Get that agreed to up front, before you order the truck. The DORA means "Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgment". It a list of exactly what the dealer ordered for you, and the prices for all the options and other items on the order. Double-check that DORA against your order to be sure the dealer ordered exactly what you wanted. Plus the DORA should include the X-Plan price, so you'll know how to arrange financing for the date of delivery.

The dealer will also have a copy of the "Dealer Order Confirmation". But do not accept that in place of the DORA. The confirmation tells you what the dealer ordered. The DORA tells you what Ford is building for you. Subtle, but important, difference.

But realize the X-Plan price does not include TT&L, and that you must subtract estimated rebates from it. I say "estimated" rebates, because rebates are not a sure thing until the day of delivery. On the day of delivery, the dealerperson will look in his computer's Vincent system to view the rebates and other incentives that apply to your location on the day of delivery.
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmokeyWren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Talk only to a manager, such as a fleet manager, new truck manager, new car manager, general manager or dealer. don't waste time talking to lot lizzards or salespersons.

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Dont talk to a lot lizzard? I would if they are the high class type. I have seen a few with good figures and they wear those short skirts. Just make sure they do not talk you into something you will regret later. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/sick.gif
 

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CaptSkup- I follow these forums on a daily basis. I read numerous posts while you anxiously waited for your truck. I'm sure one of them was a post about you taking a 30 mile or so test drive long after you ordered your truck. Does that fall in the catagory of "knowing some jackass did not take my truck on a joyride?"
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CaptSkup- I follow these forums on a daily basis. I read numerous posts while you anxiously waited for your truck. I'm sure one of them was a post about you taking a 30 mile or so test drive long after you ordered your truck. Does that fall in the catagory of "knowing some jackass did not take my truck on a joyride?" </div></div>

Thats a good one there, TLG.
 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: timurray</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...They have expiration dates but they can also go away before the expiration date (I lost a $500 rebate....expired 1/2/08 but went away in November).</div></div>
I've never heard of a rebate "going away" before it's posted expiration date. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif There had to be a misunderstanding, or someone wasn't being straight-up with you. The dealer may have mistakenly informed you about rebates that were actually not applicable to you, or your vehicle. He may have just been covering his backside with his story of rebates "going away".

The other alternative was that the dealer was pocketing the rebate, but that's hard to hide. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you have to turn-over a rebate by signing a release to the dealer.
 
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