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Got 6 40' telephone poles on a 30' trailer, 25+5 dovetail tandem dually gooseneck with farm plates.

Truck is friends f-250 SRW.

I believe this is illegal - but it's likely going to happen - gotta go 50 miles. What is going to happen if (when) the load gets pulled over due to length? Would a chainsaw help to have?

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On back roads with red flag on the end of the poles, probably no one will say anything as long as the rest of the equipment is fully functional, the load is well secured, and you are driving responsibly.
On an interstate/well traveled state road, you'll need an oversize permit, possibly an escort (vehicle type, not passanger), and lots of red flags on the poles & trailer.
What happens when pulled over highly depends on what jurisdiction the LEO is from. State will probably be harsher (that's just the way it seems to go with them), city, then county being most lenient.
Not knowing Tx laws well, I can't say exactly. In general if you know what you're doing, take lots of safety precautions, and be careful, you'll be OK.
If you're willing to cut them off if pulled over to get going again, why not cut them off before hitting the road and save the worry?

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About the chains - yeah - thought of that.

Guy who wants them wnats 40 footers - but if it is like a $1000 fine - I'd rather lose the sale and eat a couple chains.....just a thought.


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at least no more than 5' over the back? That is legal. 5' with a flag. (a little more would maybe not attract attention,)
Heck, 5' over the nose would be a piece of cake wouldn't it?
If your nose is like the one on my 32' gooseneck, then the "V" would help hold them together at the front, and you could tie them down very easily.
 

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They are 10' over the back...and they are HUGE. they 6 are 8' wide single layer on the trailer...it was not an easy 2.5 hour job to load.

I think they are there to stay - thanks for all the replys.
 

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I work for an electric utility, we call them electric poles. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Haul them, if you flag it they are legal. We put a 60 foot pole on the side of a truck in a pinch and the DOT could care less.

We ask about it being legal and poles don't fall under the same rules as other products. Most times our pole trailer has more hang over than you'll have and that happens daily.

depending on what class pole they are the weights are about 2K each.
 

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Do like the log haulers do up here and put a wedge under the front to lift them over the bed of the truck. 6-8' should do the trick...
 

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Thanks Diesel Doc - yeah, I believe they weigh a ton - tractor can lift 1000k with bucket - and we could barely lift one end high enough to back the trailer under (w/chain). Then move it over and slide it up and do it all over again - talk about the wrong equipemnt for the job - can't wait till these are gone. Got it flagged already - and bound down with chains - I guess I'm over thinking it.
 

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Flag them & go. I assume you know how to drive & be aware of what your load is doing.
 

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I agree, flag them and go. If you can do it at night. Oversize loads catch fewer eyes at night.
 

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tractor can lift 1000k with bucket

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That tractor shouldn't have even noticed lifting 2,000 pounds if it can lift a million pounds!

1000k is 1000 times 1000 since k means 1000. So 1000k is 1,000,000 pounds! I'd like to see that tractor, it must be HUGE! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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tractor can lift 1000k with bucket

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That tractor shouldn't have even noticed lifting 2,000 pounds if it can lift a million pounds!

1000k is 1000 times 1000 since k means 1000. So 1000k is 1,000,000 pounds! I'd like to see that tractor, it must be HUGE! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yep - tractor is baaaaddddd!!!

It's red (American) with a blue FEL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
 

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I agree, flag them and go. If you can do it at night. Oversize loads catch fewer eyes at night.


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Not sure about Texas, but here in Utah any load with over 4' of rear overhang requires a permit. Any load with 10' or more of rear overhang is PROHIBITED from moving during hours of darkness, so I'd rethink the move it at night thing. Also any load over 4', but under 10' requires lights at the rear of the load in order to move after dark. I've legally hauled 17' of rear overhang without a pilot car, but the permit is mandatory. Usually a single trip oversize permit is only about $10-20. Pretty cheap insurance...

I know Texas doesn't have many weigh stations, but if you have to pass one, I'd try a different route or make sure everything is in order first.
 

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If moving at night you better have red lights on the end plus the flags. Logging trucks in SC regularly haul trees that over hang the trailer by at least 10' with a red flag or red light at night.
I regularly haul 20' poles on my 12' trailer by placing the small end on a rack at the front of the trailer that lifts them above the bed of the truck. I buy 3 at a time.

Flag it and have a safe trip,
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A couple more things is that don't go by what utility companys do. I have worked for one for 32 years now and all the pole trailers that I have used have a over-length permit along with the regrestration. Also at night we use a yellow strobe attached to the end of the longest pole. But as most have said here just flag it well and drive like you know what you have behind you. There should be no trouble.

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Flag it, Dont speed!, do it in the daylight, have a vehicle follow with flashers on.
 

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We have no permits in the pole trailers.
Any permit in Ohio is for one load, the route and date spelled out.
The do send a flag car with a 70 foot pole on the semi coming in from the vendor.
We haul them out with nothing. I could look up the federal regs on it but it would be a waste of time.
Just flag it during the day and act like you know what your doing.
 

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yeah just flag them when we have 40's on our pole truck they hang 10ish feet off the back of the trailer. 50's are 20' past.

depends on how far you gotta go and if dps hangs round there. if you can do it in low traffic time and just have them flagged they probably wont care. just remember your tail swing....we had a grunt take some stuff out from that....
 
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