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I think the PS fan is normal, CW to tighten, CCW to loosen

from what I have seen, it takes a hammer or air chisel to shock the nut loose
CW to tighten and CCW to loosen is correct.

Do NOT use a hammer or air chisel to "shock" the nut loose. You'll likely damage something that may show up down the road in the middle of nowhere.
The proper method to remove the fan clutch is with the proper tools, a pulley holding tool and a wrench on the nut pulled toward the passenger side when sticking up past the fan shroud. You can rent the tools a most parts stores for just a deposit.

I recently changed the water pump for a buddy who had an on road failure. Took just a little over an hour after we got his truck to the nearest pulloff.
 

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CW to tighten and CCW to loosen is correct.

Do NOT use a hammer or air chisel to "shock" the nut loose. You'll likely damage something that may show up down the road in the middle of nowhere.
The proper method to remove the fan clutch is with the proper tools, a pulley holding tool and a wrench on the nut pulled toward the passenger side when sticking up past the fan shroud. You can rent the tools a most parts stores for just a deposit.

I recently changed the water pump for a buddy who had an on road failure. Took just a little over an hour after we got his truck to the nearest pulloff.
can you point me to the proper Holding Tool?
I definitely need to add that to my truck's toolbox..

and, what is the Purpose of the Baldwin Coolant Filter?
being a PS neophyte with 5 months ownership of same, I am still under the rocks learning about them
 

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John, NAPA sells a water pump clutch removal kit. It has a fork like tool that fits down both lines of the water pump pulley bolts. That keeps the pulley from moving. OTC makes a nylon strap to aluminum handle that strap is large and adjustable so it can hold various size things. I use it on hydraulic equipment. I preferr the first when changing these pumps out.
Kevin might have additional options.
 

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The base is roughly 5" wide x 5 1/2" long. The length starts at the end of the mount and doesn't include any plug that may stick out of the end of it. Same with the 5" width, no plugs are included.

Here is a picture of mine and how I have the hoses connected to it.

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Naturally yours will be a little different because of your truck year.
Here is a photo of my 02. The blue bracket that holds the filter assembly up I made. At the time DIESELSITE did not supply it. View attachment 187828
Thank you Both!! That helped a lot. Did a lot of head scratching- I’ve got a plan with a little different spin to it! I’ll wait to see how it turns out and post pictures. I now have almost all my parts ordered along with a rebuild kit (O-rings and gaskets) for the oil cooler while I’m at it. I’ll get everything layed out, redo my inventory and hopefully start weekend after next.

I have noticed that every parts house offers the “formed” heater hose to the water pump, but no-one that I can find offers the heater to engine....... is that just a straight section of heater hose that’s cut and used? I also ordered the quick connections for the heater core as long as the inlet / outlet isn’t too deformed (they have hose clamps on them now), I remember Nick saying to check them when I pull the old hoses off. I bought the formed hose without the factory quick connect so that if they won’t seal I can go to the clamps........ really hope the previous owner didn’t mess them up.
 

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Big Horn, NAPA offers a few different pumps. I install their top of the line. It is NEW not a reman, has a 3 year warranty and I have had 0 problems out of them. I also install their formed heater hoses. They do have them. They also sell the kit for removing heater hoses with quick connects. It’s a long rod for reaching. One end has a 90 degree bend for your hand. The other end is threaded for the tool. It comes with 2 tools. One is 3/4” and the other 5/8”. Try the tool on the quick connect while it’s in your hand so you see where to place the tool and how the the release mechanism works so you don’t struggle half blind way back there when the time comes to pull them.
 

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can you point me to the proper Holding Tool?
I definitely need to add that to my truck's toolbox..
This is the one I use. There are others available. This one is a little fiddly to keep on the bolt heads, but once engaged correctly, works well.
I also fabricated a wrench from a piece of bar stock to fit the hex on the fan clutch. I believe it's a 1-7/8 inch hex. There are specific tools available for the fan clutch as well.
 

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The photos attached depict a pully holding tool I made after bending a tool I bought.
It's length is 24", so plenty of leverage. Material, 2 pcs 1/8" x 3/4 x 24" CS Flat Bar, 1 pc 1/8"x 3/4 x 12 CS flat bar, 4 ea 1/4 x 1" gr 2 bolts and an old edger blade.
The edger is hardened steel, one can cut (metabo slicer) a square opening that will go over a pully bolt, not deform and slip off. The bar ends are shaped so they won't slip off unless the square end does.
One can put this holder onto the flange bolt, a combination wrench onto the clutch nut with the holder and wrench about 10-15 degrees apart and just hand squeeze the two tools together and it will break loose easy peasy lots if leverage on your side. One could shape the edger blade for cosmetics, I didn't, it's a custom tool that I don't intend to use often.

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I believe it's a 1-7/8 inch hex.
You are correct:

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I’ve already slid under the truck, I’m not so sure I couldn’t do it easily from underneath. I’m going to build a wrench for the nut and I’ve got a good idea on capturing the pulley bolt heads like what you guys have done.

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Parts are starting to roll in! Do any of you use RTV sealant on any of the water pump bolts? I’ve seen no mention on any of the write-ups but know it is common on other engines. And, is it a safe bet to reuse the old bolts? It looks like 18 ft/lbs is the correct torque, and not a misprint in the earlier 99 shop manual as mentioned by Elksniper1
 

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I do not. The holes are blind so fluid will not back out of them. I put a very light film of anti seize on them. I put oring seal on the pump. I put some weight in the oring to let it find its shape as sometimes they are a bit out of shape coming out of the box. I use some oring lube to hold it in place. I use two matching thread bolts that are longer than original pump bolts that are longer that have their head cut off to locate and hang the pump on while bolting up. Make sure the surface the pump is mating to is nice and clean.
 

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Great!
 

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Parts are starting to roll in! Do any of you use RTV sealant on any of the water pump bolts? I’ve seen no mention on any of the write-ups but know it is common on other engines. And, is it a safe bet to reuse the old bolts? It looks like 18 ft/lbs is the correct torque, and not a misprint in the earlier 99 shop manual as mentioned by Elksniper1
No, I did not use RTV on the bolt threads. My replacement WP came with two new bolts, the longest two, I reused the rest. One should be very careful with the bolt positioning, there are three lengths. Some go into blind holes, using a bolt too long in a blind hole could bottom out and easily twist it off. To prevent that scenario make a cardboard outline sketch of the WP and number the bolt holes, measure the bolts as you pull them and poke them into the cardboard sketch where they go.
The day before I took the new WP and fit its o-ring type gasket into the WP with a dab of RTV and some weight to hold the gasket in the surface slot. Clean - Clean - Clean the front cover mating surface.
Tip, I took two long bolts I had, same thread and cut off the hex heads, then screwed the studs into the front cover, put some RTV on the WP mating face, on the gasket ring outside so that the RTV squeeze will be squeeze out not squeeze in. Then put the WP onto the two temp studs and slide it up to the mating surface, this takes the strain off holding the WP up while trying to make a bolt, keeps the gasket ring in and doesn't result in smearing the RTV where it shouldn't be or off. Easy to make up all the bolts.
18 ft/lbs is the correct torque. Dry torque.
 
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It looks like 18 ft/lbs is the correct torque, and not a misprint in the earlier 99 shop

It truly is written as 38ftlbs (or something close to that ) as I checked the book and used two different torque wrenches ,knowing the book wouldn’t be wrong and assumed my wrenches were wrong. SNAP!!!! And this was 99 the actual Ford shop manual
Believe me I definitely vividly recall that experience …
Juts didn’t want you to go thru that mess..
In hindsight I should have known that size bolt should not be around 40 lbs.
as far as rtv I’ve not used on any of the pumps I’ve done.
I do however have had one leak at the lower 90 degree connection of the radiator hose I ended up using rtv there after unsuccessfully trying to locate new rubber gasket for that connection
 

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I was contemplating a light application of anti-seize and then reducing torque by 20% for wet vs. dry, but I guess I’ll wait to see how the old bolts come out. I did buy a new, complete set of water pump bolts from Riffraff. I’m also picking up all my supplies to do the complete coolant flush and then change the water pump on the last distilled water flush.

I’m gonna try and do the block plug removal also, and see how it goes. I’ve looked everything over carefully and when I starting the removal of the water pump and hoses I’ll have a lot better access to the oil cooler and rebuild it. I’ve read the R&R on it and it seems very straightforward👍
 

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I was contemplating a light application of anti-seize and then reducing torque by 20% for wet vs. dry, but I guess I’ll wait to see how the old bolts come out. I did buy a new, complete set of water pump bolts from Riffraff. I’m also picking up all my supplies to do the complete coolant flush and then change the water pump on the last distilled water flush.

I’m gonna try and do the block plug removal also, and see how it goes. I’ve looked everything over carefully and when I starting the removal of the water pump and hoses I’ll have a lot better access to the oil cooler and rebuild it. I’ve read the R&R on it and it seems very straightforward👍
I can't see that the Oil Cooler "access" will be better when you are doing a R&R of the Water Pump, unless one intends on removing the front standard of the cooler. I would not remove the front standard, unless it was leaking at its connection to the engine. The most common failure is cooler oil rings that seal cooler barrel to front and rear standards. They fail from that close and constant exhaust manifold heat exposures. Turbo happy drivers and constantly high EGT driving accelerates that o-ring failure. If the front standard is not leaking then typically one can remove the rear standard and change o-rings pretty fast. You will know if it's an o-ring issue, they will be brittle like crackers when you pull them off.
Since there is potential oil/water cross over maybe a different approach could be flush and detergent clean the cooling system last, flush the detergent out repeatedly and use the last flush cycle with distilled water, drain the water down out of the RAD and top it up with 4 gallons of concentrate coolant. And B finished after a proactive oil change.
You are smart to know to reduce torque in a "wet" torque application. NC threads will typically go 40% over set point with Lube, 60% over set point with NF threads.
This predictable constant can be a negative, or used as positive for a given application. It's a factor in my work where we have to torque large fasteners in very tight quarters, too small for a long, like a 3/4" drive torque wrench. We use a small torque multiplier, and small torque wrench on lubed fastener threads to produce big small area torque, torque that can be acceptably quantified in a build report for a large rotor, typically 100K# + in weight.
 

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Make sure you bleed the system. Set heat furthest to right. Run engine infill warm. Take it up to 2500 RPM. Let it run there for 5 minutes. Let it cool. Add coolant.
Knuckleheads that fail to do this wonder why they get cracked injector cups. 😉
 

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I can't see that the Oil Cooler "access" will be better when you are doing a R&R of the Water Pump, unless one intends on removing the front standard of the cooler. I would not remove the front standard, unless it was leaking at its connection to the engine. The most common failure is cooler oil rings that seal cooler barrel to front and rear standards. They fail from that close and constant exhaust manifold heat exposures. Turbo happy drivers and constantly high EGT driving accelerates that o-ring failure. If the front standard is not leaking then typically one can remove the rear standard and change o-rings pretty fast. You will know if it's an o-ring issue, they will be brittle like crackers when you pull them off.
Since there is potential oil/water cross over maybe a different approach could be flush and detergent clean the cooling system last, flush the detergent out repeatedly and use the last flush cycle with distilled water, drain the water down out of the RAD and top it up with 4 gallons of concentrate coolant. And B finished after a proactive oil change.
You are smart to know to reduce torque in a "wet" torque application. NC threads will typically go 40% over set point with Lube, 60% over set point with NF threads.
This predictable constant can be a negative, or used as positive for a given application. It's a factor in my work where we have to torque large fasteners in very tight quarters, too small for a long, like a 3/4" drive torque wrench. We use a small torque multiplier, and small torque wrench on lubed fastener threads to produce big small area torque, torque that can be acceptably quantified in a build report for a large rotor, typically 100K# + in weight.
Yes, that’s what I was referring to, I would personally never go in that far and not pull the front of the oil cooler, it will be getting its’ new gasket as well.

Below is a copy of the well written R&R on oil coolers which also addresses Nicks concern of not hanging the cooler off of the front plate.

I have a copy of Gooch’s coolant flush which describes turning on and running the Heater control to Full heat to remove air pockets:

 
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