[jnickisc]

I just installed the SCT Live Wire in my van. WOW!

The power boost is incredible. My intent is to go with the "economy" tune full time but figured I'd give the "street" tune a try. It runs like a bat out of hell compared to stock.

The computer clocked my 9,000 pound van at 16.899 @ 91 MPH in the quarter mile. I'm sure my slow reflexes account for 1/2 a second of it.

The power comes on smooth, strong and fast with absolutely no smoke.

So far, the only down sides are the size of the Live Wire and the location of the connectors. It's bigger than I thought it would be. I was hoping to mount it on the left corner of the windshield with the windshield mount but that's not going to work. The connector cable goes into the bottom of the unit, forcing the mounting location way too high.

Now, I'm looking to find a way to mount it just above and to the left of the auxiliary power socket.

Also, the OBD II connector is a straight plug, meaning the wire is now facing the seat and juts out several inches. I might have to shift the van OBD II plug sideways to avoid constantly hitting the wire.

When I put the "economy" tune in, I'll let you know how much it helps my mileage.

--Joey

 

[stroked_van]

I had the same issue with the OBD II plug.
I rotated the plug 180* to be able to leave my Autoenginuity cable hooked up to it full time (less of a chance to lose it that way /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ). All of the wires stay hidden behind the "knee" panel below the steering wheel and it really isn't that hard to get to if the need ever does come up.

 

[jnickisc]

Preliminary fuel economy is extremely promising.

We hit 20 MPG on a recent highway trip (~70 mph) and my wife did most of the driving. She usually gets 1-2 MPG less than I do (driving style) plus she commented on how it was easier to maintain speed on the hills. I'm using the regular tow tune until I submit my info for a custom economy tune.

My Scan Gauge says I'm getting 24 MPG doing a steady 40 MPH on a long flat road (several miles.) If I can keep that up for a full tank then I'll really believe it.

Innovative Diesel tells me that the OBD II plug issue should be resolved shortly (apparently I'm not the only one who didn't like to cord) and that SCT is already working on a dash mount.

For anybody interested, the program brings the van up to the power level of the trucks. Here's what I was quoted:

Xtreme Race- 420-440rwhp/760-780rwtq - Converter locked in all gears.
Xtreme Street- 420-430rwhp/730-760rwtq- Not recommended for towing.
Street- 400rwhp/670rwtq- Tow up to 10k lbs.
Tow- 350rwhp/630rwtq- Towing over 10k lbs up to the maximum of the truck.

 

[Bronco_Hauler]

Given that the 6.0L in the van is detuned in order to reduce excess heat that is hard ot get rid of in the van, have you seen any higher temps (engine, tranny or exhaust)?


Herb

 

[jnickisc]

Under normal driving, heat (pyro and dash gauge) is about the same. Zero difference noticed in the transmission.

Under heavy throttle, the pyro does seem to come up in temperature quicker than stock. I can't see a difference in the cool down. I haven't watched the dash gauge under heavy throttle to be able to comment on it.

Fuel consumption is definitely better. Another long highway drive and my Scan Gauge is telling me I'm averaging 21 MPG (it has been fairly accurate in the past.) I'll have a more accurate number when I do my next fill up.

With local driving I'm doing 17.5 MPG, as measured in my fill ups (2 so far.) My trip odometer was 520 point something and I filled 29.13 gallons plus maybe 1/4 gallon (scientific eyeball) of additive (silver) on my last fill.

Prior to the SCT LiveWire, I was getting about 14-16 in town and around 18 on the highway.

 

[bork]

Does your engine sound different with the tune? Like slightly noisier from the advanced injector timng?

 

[SVONick]

I just dyno'd my 05 6L van yesterday. It was on Innovative's Xtreme tune on the Xcal2. My only other mod right now is a cat back system. It put down 405 hp @ 3400 and 625 tq @ 3300. I was extremely pleased with that. Needless to say, all the guys at the shop were surprised.

We just got our dyno in the shop yesterday, so I will run it on the economy and towing tunes to see what they do. Also need to finish the rest of my exhaust system in front of the cat.

Here is the graph of the run.

 

[MADVAN]

Got to love a diesel.
Look at how peak tork and HP are within a 100rpm.
Tork Monsters.
Watch out on the go pedal at or above 34. The valve train $ucks.

Bill

 

[jnickisc]

Bork: no sound difference noted in the tune.

SVONick: Thanks for the dyno graph! It's interesting to see that the torque is not as high on the van as on the trucks, even with the same tune. My guess is that the intercooler makes the difference.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Economy and Tow dyno graphs.

What exhaust are you running?

 

[Bronco_Hauler]

[ QUOTE ]
I just dyno'd my 05 6L van yesterday. It was on Innovative's Xtreme tune on the Xcal2. My only other mod right now is a cat back system. It put down 405 hp @ 3400 and 625 tq @ 3300. I was extremely pleased with that. Needless to say, all the guys at the shop were surprised.

We just got our dyno in the shop yesterday, so I will run it on the economy and towing tunes to see what they do. Also need to finish the rest of my exhaust system in front of the cat.

Here is the graph of the run.

[/ QUOTE ]

Any update on the Economy and Tow tunes?


Herb

 

[SVONick]

Joey, I have the 3.5" downpipe and 4" aftercat from magnaflow. It is the kit for the 6.0 trucks. I cut off the exit of the cat where it flared down and was 4", then welded it on there. Everything else fit fine. I know i will probably have to do some modifying to get the downpipe to work, but i dont think it will be too bad.

Herb, I have not had time yet to get it on and do the other two tunes. Hope to do that this week some time. Lots of customers wanting runs on the new dyno. Have to let the paying customers on it first. I am still king of the torque hill. Probably will be until another diesel shows up. But we don't really work on diesels, so it might stand for a while.

I love the towing tune from Innovative. Towing my 10k 31' travel trailer, I never see over 1100 egt, even on full throttle up grade pulls. I would buy an sct tuner for Innovative's towing tune alone. It does such a great job controlling egt's.

Nick