First off I would like to say hello to everyone I just signed up I have been looking on here for 2 days and I seem to be going in circles with the issue i am having. My truck is a 2004 6.0l it has 127k on it and i bought it on tuesday. On wednesday I was sitting at a traffic light and it started skipping when i hit the gas it seems to run fine then when it is in overdrive it shudders bad until i push the gas and it downshifts it also stops when i put in tow/haul mode. The problem seems to be when below 1800 rps. Now the history the po told me is he replaced the injectors, ficm, egr cooler delete. I removed the egr and cleaned it it was really gummed up. I started it with egr unplugged it runs the same so i plugged it back in. I unplugged the ICP and it still ran the same. Any ideas I know there are problems with 6.0l but i thought i would get more than 1 day out of it. Thanks Chris
Sputtering 6.0L
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New info it appears after i made the deal on the truck the PO changed out the batteries one was no good out of a car and the other was borderline out of a boat with loose clamps so i just had 2 new batteries installed but it still runs the same. The truck starts right up (3 seconds cranking at the most) It dosent smoke at all even when i get on it.
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Welcome.
Can't help ya with yer problem but remember it's a diesel so you don't "hit the gas."
You either "mash the accelerator" or "stomp on the go peddle" LOL
Good luck with your problem and your truck. I hope it's nothin major
Best to ya.
Can't help ya with yer problem but remember it's a diesel so you don't "hit the gas."
You either "mash the accelerator" or "stomp on the go peddle" LOL
Good luck with your problem and your truck. I hope it's nothin major
Best to ya.
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Having oil in the coolant and "clean" oil is entirely possible.
Are you sure it's oil? Is it floating or look like sand in the bottom of the reservoir? Maybe post a pic? Not trying to insult your intelligence but just need to make sure. Because if it is, you have a ruptured oil cooler. And that's a big deal. Do NOT drive the truck.
Are there any signs of coolant spewing out of the degas bottle? Look for a white crusty substance on the underside of the hood or on/around the degas bottle.
Are you sure it's oil? Is it floating or look like sand in the bottom of the reservoir? Maybe post a pic? Not trying to insult your intelligence but just need to make sure. Because if it is, you have a ruptured oil cooler. And that's a big deal. Do NOT drive the truck.
Are there any signs of coolant spewing out of the degas bottle? Look for a white crusty substance on the underside of the hood or on/around the degas bottle.
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Probably is oil.
I went back and re-read your original post. You say it has an EGR delete? I'm just trying to put together the picture here. IF the PO did a delete, he could have very well been doing it because of a failed oil cooler. If that's the case, then you might just have residual oil in the system from a previous failure.
You might want to get a hold of the PO and get some details on why he did the delete? Was it because of an EGR cooler failure? Oil cooler failure? Both?
And you really need to get some gauges on that thing. If you want to get up and running pretty quick and pretty cheap, check out the ScanGauge2. $159. It's a code reader and electronic gauge that monitors just about anything you need.
I went back and re-read your original post. You say it has an EGR delete? I'm just trying to put together the picture here. IF the PO did a delete, he could have very well been doing it because of a failed oil cooler. If that's the case, then you might just have residual oil in the system from a previous failure.
You might want to get a hold of the PO and get some details on why he did the delete? Was it because of an EGR cooler failure? Oil cooler failure? Both?
And you really need to get some gauges on that thing. If you want to get up and running pretty quick and pretty cheap, check out the ScanGauge2. $159. It's a code reader and electronic gauge that monitors just about anything you need.
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I kind of doubt it. But you never know. If you can get the version, post it up. Somebody will be able to comment on the version.
IMO, you're at the point where you need to start doing some diagnostics.
Not sure if your scanner will pull all these values or the codes (you don't have to have a CEL on to have a code). You need something that speaks Ford CAN. The ScanGauge2 and, I believe, the Edge Insight will read these values.
Check the no-start sticky at the top of this forum. I know you don't have a no-start but it's still a good diagnosis to run through.
And you really need to look into the oil in the degas bottle issue. Your first priority should be determining if that's residue from a previous oil cooler failure or if you're actually dealing with a failure right now. Either way, you've got work to do.
IMO, you're at the point where you need to start doing some diagnostics.
- Pull codes
- Check fuel pressure
- Change oil and fuel filters. Motorcraft, Raycor, Ford, or Fram only
- EOT vs ECT deltaT
- Check IPR % and ICP volts
- Pull, inspect, and clean MAF, MAP, and EP sensors
- etc.....
Not sure if your scanner will pull all these values or the codes (you don't have to have a CEL on to have a code). You need something that speaks Ford CAN. The ScanGauge2 and, I believe, the Edge Insight will read these values.
Check the no-start sticky at the top of this forum. I know you don't have a no-start but it's still a good diagnosis to run through.
And you really need to look into the oil in the degas bottle issue. Your first priority should be determining if that's residue from a previous oil cooler failure or if you're actually dealing with a failure right now. Either way, you've got work to do.
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AHHHHHHH! Napa! Got to go.
You might have to get a new Ford cap for the Ford, Motorcraft, Raycor, or Fram filter (all identical BTW, shop price). I've never used or seen a NAPA but have heard they have their own cap to make their filter work.
Ford has the patent on the cartridge filter. Other people like Napa and Wix got around this by slightly changing the cartridge design which necessitated a change in the cap.
Long story short, the NAPA cap probably won't fit the Ford filter.
You might have to get a new Ford cap for the Ford, Motorcraft, Raycor, or Fram filter (all identical BTW, shop price). I've never used or seen a NAPA but have heard they have their own cap to make their filter work.
Ford has the patent on the cartridge filter. Other people like Napa and Wix got around this by slightly changing the cartridge design which necessitated a change in the cap.
Long story short, the NAPA cap probably won't fit the Ford filter.
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