[sixspeeddroner]

The first drop hit the ground today, and there will be more to follow, looks like I'll be replacing it soon, anyone have thoughts on new vs rebuilt and what brand is holding up the best. The stealership is out to lunch on his prices.

 

[AutoJim]

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The stealership is out to lunch on his prices.

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Probably because he heard you calling him a thief.

Airtex was the OEM supplier.

 

[rlalford]

Try northernautoparts.com NEW Airtex water pump shipped for less than 100 bucks. About $93 dollars good, fast service.

 

[Gooch]

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The stealership is out to lunch on his prices.

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Probably because he heard you calling him a thief.

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Nah. Ford charges at least double for the same pump. According to the last post, maybe even quadruple. Everyone knows what Ford charges for parts is a rip-off.

 

[JimTJr]

Got my last one from Here, TONS cheaper than FORD, and fit was fine.... quality/durablity was vouched for from others on here I gave it a try, got that pump and a coolant filter from Bob Riley for less than the pump from FORD! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

 

[BULLITT4655]

How long does it take to change out a waterpump in the driveway?

Mine decided to puke coolant all over the place!

 

[JimTJr]

If you have done any other V8 water pump, pretty much the same amount of time,, You can get the tool (Free loaner from AutoZone, or someplace similar.) to remove the fan from the pump. I have a different method that works fine,,, but some dissaprove of it! (My experience level, took maybe 2hrs,, including a good coolant flush) Since I was about 130k miles, and a little overdue for a coolant change anyway /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif) I went with the Fleetrite ELC NO Silicate AF and a DIESELSITE Coolant filter.
If your upper hose routes through the serp belt. Change it to the "Preferred" Hose, (O'Rileys description on their 'puter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif but appropriate) It is the "Dual alternator" upper hose, and routes behind the belt into the nifty "Cradle" that LOOKS LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED to be there,,, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif DUH,, What in hell was FORD thinking? Why use the same upper alt bracket,, and a different hose??? ENGINEERS ARE SUCH IDIOTS sometimes,, (Flame suit on!)

 

[Ggg6]

If all you are doing is r/r the pump it can be done in a couple of hours easily using only hand tools. I would buy a new thermostat housing just so you have a better chance of it sealing, and don't eat up time and trouble trying to clean and make the old corroded one seal. Good time to do the Reilly's 203* t-stat, hoses and a belt if you have not already. I used one of the Airtex pumps from the link above and I was very happy with it. Put cardboard in between the fan clutch and the rad core to protect it. BTW fan clutch is right hand thread.

 

[AutoJim]

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ENGINEERS ARE SUCH IDIOTS sometimes,, (Flame suit on!)

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Engineers didn't do that. Bean-counters did, nevermind that adding a separate part number to the system carries additional costs vs. having just one part number that fits both single and dual-alt versions.

I know the engineers, and I can assure you that a figurative gun was held to their heads by the beanies on that one. It wasn't their call at all.

 

[johnnieboy]

BTW fan clutch is right hand thread.

can you describe this statement? all screws and bolts are right hand thread. meaning looking at screw or bolt turning clockwise it moves away from you.

thank you,

johnnieboy

 

[action4478]

YEP....

 

[White 99]

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BTW fan clutch is right hand thread.

can you describe this statement? all screws and bolts are right hand thread. meaning looking at screw or bolt turning clockwise it moves away from you.

thank you,

johnnieboy

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I am not real sure about the above is but right hand thread tightens clockwise and left hand thread tightens counter clockwise.

Right?

 

[losfinch]

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If you have done any other V8 water pump, pretty much the same amount of time,, You can get the tool (Free loaner from AutoZone, or someplace similar.) to remove the fan from the pump. I have a different method that works fine,,, but some dissaprove of it!

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I'd like to know your other method...I'm needing to change mine and I don't have access to much where I'm at. If your flame suit is at the cleaners feel free to PM me!

 

[action4478]

A drift punch & a hammer. Tap on the fan clutch nut holding the drift as high on one of the flats as possible, trying to spin it in a counter clockwise direction...An air chisel works also. Either way it won't take much to get it spinning. The rest of the way it can be turned by hand....

 

[AutoJim]

...and then replace the fan drive as well as the water pump 'cause you hammered the bearings in both.

 

[action4478]

Jim..He wanted to know the other ( Flame suit on ) way...

I have the proper tools,, he does not...I'm pretty sure that 's not the first time you read about some one doing it that way..If he is carefull, it will probably work fine. As you said , he should have the correct tools...to be absolutely sure not to create any more problems than he already has...

For the original poster , auto zone will rent you the tools necessary. to remove the fan...

 

[arisley]

A pipe wrench works good also.

 

[Ggg6]

Some fan clutches are left hand threaded.

 

[arisley]

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Now that makes a whole lotta sense. Not doubting you at all. Gotta be one of the best bits of engineering they could come up with. That way one years part will not changeover to another. Might even make up for the retooling costs with the extra (no that's not right either) why the f*&$ do they do [email protected]*^ like that.

I grew up a chevy man, built a Junkyard Suburban had part on it from 1968 through 1990, did not have to drill one hole, every bolt fit. All I had to do was strip off some trim because it did not line up. Only thing I did not like about Fords. Thought they learned better.

 

[AutoJim]

Here's an easy way to tell: If the fan pulley is driven by the back side of the belt and turns opposite crankshaft direction, the fan should have a RH thread.

If the fan is driven by the front (grooved) side of the belt and turns crankshaft direction, it'll most likely have an LH thread.

The 7.3L PSD in all '99-'03 SuperDuties use a RH thread. The 6.0L PSD in all '03-'07 SuperDuties also has an RH thread. If you have an F650 or bigger with a DT444 in it, all bets are off -- I don't know what you have. If you have an F650 or bigger with a VT365 in it, it has a LH thread -- that is also a different size than the PSD thread.