What coolant to replace with?
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Here is a good guide to use for cooling system service... http://andersonimprovements.com/hobbies/truck/coolingsysservice.htm
If you plan on keeping your truck for a while and don't want to continue to have to fool around with the cooling system & SCA's, I recommend using this... http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=42 ... along with a coolant filter and in a zero pressure system.
If you plan on keeping your truck for a while and don't want to continue to have to fool around with the cooling system & SCA's, I recommend using this... http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=42 ... along with a coolant filter and in a zero pressure system.
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Here is a good guide to use for cooling system service... http://andersonimprovements.com/hobbies/truck/coolingsysservice.htm
If you plan on keeping your truck for a while and don't want to continue to have to fool around with the cooling system & SCA's, I recommend using this... http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=42 ... along with a coolant filter and in a zero pressure system.
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that is a very interesting write up on coolants, but there are a few of us on here and else where that use some coolants that are not recommended and have not seen any problems.
i personally use rotella's elc 50/50 belend(red). i have been using it for 5 yrs now. and when i had the water pump changed(5 yrs ago) the ford dealer installed the same exact coolant.
Here is a good guide to use for cooling system service... http://andersonimprovements.com/hobbies/truck/coolingsysservice.htm
If you plan on keeping your truck for a while and don't want to continue to have to fool around with the cooling system & SCA's, I recommend using this... http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=42 ... along with a coolant filter and in a zero pressure system.
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that is a very interesting write up on coolants, but there are a few of us on here and else where that use some coolants that are not recommended and have not seen any problems.
i personally use rotella's elc 50/50 belend(red). i have been using it for 5 yrs now. and when i had the water pump changed(5 yrs ago) the ford dealer installed the same exact coolant.
I didn't read the link but I am using Fleetguard Compleat coolant. It comes with the SCAs already in it and it is considered a lifetime coolant especially if you have a coolant filter, good forever if you don't have some type of catastrophic cooling system failure . It is blue in color.
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I use CAT coolant premix 50/50, rated for 600,000 miles and has SCA's
Interesting...International didn't upgrade their seals and gaskets for ELC's until 99 and later. I wonder just how many people here have been using the ELC and not having any seal/gasket problems. It might be a little risky...but it appears some have been doing it without problems. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
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Interesting...International didn't upgrade their seals and gaskets for ELC's until 99 and later. I wonder just how many people here have been using the ELC and not having any seal/gasket problems. It might be a little risky...but it appears some have been doing it without problems. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
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Hmmm, I wonder if thats why my front cover seal decided to leak after only 50k miles of life. It was very degraded in appearance.
Interesting...International didn't upgrade their seals and gaskets for ELC's until 99 and later. I wonder just how many people here have been using the ELC and not having any seal/gasket problems. It might be a little risky...but it appears some have been doing it without problems. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
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Hmmm, I wonder if thats why my front cover seal decided to leak after only 50k miles of life. It was very degraded in appearance.
There is nothing wrong with playing it safe. You just have to do the maintenance and upkeep more often is all. I myself have stayed away from the ELC's because I just don't want to take the risk. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif For those of you using it...Good Luck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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There is nothing wrong with playing it safe. You just have to do the maintenance and upkeep more often is all. I myself have stayed away from the ELC's because I just don't want to take the risk. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif For those of you using it...Good Luck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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hey griz, how's that "evan's waterless coolant" working out for ya?
do you add any additives to it? just curious, i saw it on your sig
There is nothing wrong with playing it safe. You just have to do the maintenance and upkeep more often is all. I myself have stayed away from the ELC's because I just don't want to take the risk. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif For those of you using it...Good Luck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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hey griz, how's that "evan's waterless coolant" working out for ya?
do you add any additives to it? just curious, i saw it on your sig
Evans is a Life Time coolant which is different from ELC coolants. It is not an OAT or HOAT (Organic Acid Technology and Hybrid OAT) coolant which is what causes the seal and gasket problems in our PSD. Evan's seems to be working fine...there is no SCA's to add or anything like that. It doesn't cool as well some 50/50 mix coolants do but it doesn't create any cooling problems either. The biggest draw back of going with Evan's is the initial cost. They are pretty proud of it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif Some worry about getting all the water out during the initial fill-up but I didn't have any problems doing that.
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Evans is a Life Time coolant which is different from ELC coolants. It is not an OAT or HOAT (Organic Acid Technology and Hybrid OAT) coolant which is what causes the seal and gasket problems in our PSD. Evan's seems to be working fine...there is no SCA's to add or anything like that. It doesn't cool as well some 50/50 mix coolants do but it doesn't create any cooling problems either. The biggest draw back of going with Evan's is the initial cost. They are pretty proud of it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif Some worry about getting all the water out during the initial fill-up but I didn't have any problems doing that.
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[/ QUOTE ]How did you get all the water out? Other than the $122 worth of coolant what else is required in order to get the Evans to work in our trucks?
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Evans is a Life Time coolant which is different from ELC coolants. It is not an OAT or HOAT (Organic Acid Technology and Hybrid OAT) coolant which is what causes the seal and gasket problems in our PSD. Evan's seems to be working fine...there is no SCA's to add or anything like that. It doesn't cool as well some 50/50 mix coolants do but it doesn't create any cooling problems either. The biggest draw back of going with Evan's is the initial cost. They are pretty proud of it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif Some worry about getting all the water out during the initial fill-up but I didn't have any problems doing that.
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[/ QUOTE ]How did you get all the water out? Other than the $122 worth of coolant what else is required in order to get the Evans to work in our trucks?
Sam
I just followed the instructions supplied by Bob Riley...drain the radiator, remove both block plugs, blow air through the heater core and disconnect the bottom hose on the radiator and drain it. Let everything sit for 15-20 minutes then plug everything back up and refill for 100% Evans coolant. It takes 7-8 gallons depending on the size of your radiator. Last I checked Evan's is running around $30 a gallon so you are looking at $210 to $240 for the change out. Would I do it again...probably not. I would use Fleetguard Compleat or another conventional fully formulated coolant with SCA already added. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Where do people usually buy their precharged SCA coolant. I've called all the local parts stores including NAPA and no one carries it ?
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I always use Global Final Charge from WalMart. It's pre-charged, pre-diluted & has worked very very well for me. $15ish per gallon.
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Thanks. I picked some up at a Truck Stop also as Walmart doesn't carry it here. $10.99/gal. Was able to make it to work Monday morning instead of waiting for all the truck stores and International Dealers to open (Closed on Sundays - Not good for the Procrastinators like myslef).
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Tractor Supply Company also carries the right stuff.
Don't be confused; the red ELC coolants do not have SCA in them because they don't need SCAs. You need a regular old green coolant, or a coolant that specifically says SCAs added.
Don't be confused; the red ELC coolants do not have SCA in them because they don't need SCAs. You need a regular old green coolant, or a coolant that specifically says SCAs added.
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