I would get a gas pickup, if I can keep my diesel. 
The 6.2 would have major issues pulling my trailer. :shock: 16.5k
The 6.2 would have major issues pulling my trailer. :shock: 16.5k
Would you buy the gasser again?
I really have no need for a diesel but I do really like the Super Duty trucks. So as the title states if something happened to your truck today would you buy another 6.2 liter powered Super Duty.
Thanks
John
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John
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Im wanting a new truck and cant decide on gas or diesel. I like the maintenance cost of gas, but need to tow a 15.5k camper. Its a hard choice
By the numbers, unless you are looking at a 350 super cab 2 wheel drive or regular, the numbers ae not on your side.
Diesel costs more - yes. But you'll get a higher percentage resale value down the road. As for maintenance costs - I think the diesel is cheaper to maintain. My gassers, both of them, have high costs with plugs, ignition coils, spark wires, spark plugs which sometimes break off and require big dollars to remove. I have a 6.2 and an ecoboost. I'd choose the ecoboost over the 6.2 any day. If I need to tow something that required the 6.2 I'd just as soon have the diesel. Don't forget the warranty on the diesel is much higher miles.
One of my biggest concerns is repair costs after the factory warranty is up
I have spent around $1500 on my 6.2 over the last 4 years on the routine maintenance (excluding tire replacment) at the dealer. Including the replacement of spark plugs at 115K miles.Diesel costs more - yes. But you'll get a higher percentage resale value down the road. As for maintenance costs - I think the diesel is cheaper to maintain. My gassers, both of them, have high costs with plugs, ignition coils, spark wires, spark plugs which sometimes break off and require big dollars to remove. I have a 6.2 and an ecoboost. I'd choose the ecoboost over the 6.2 any day. If I need to tow something that required the 6.2 I'd just as soon have the diesel. Don't forget the warranty on the diesel is much higher miles.
I cannot believe the routine maintenance on the 6.7 up to 120K miles is less than that. How do you say diesel is cheaper to maintain? I think you must be the first to make this claim on this forum.
Totally true... However, I got this truck to pull a 14k+ trailer on a regular basis, which is more than I wanted to tow with the gasser. Not that the gas couldn't do it, but I felt it was asking a bit much for that motor combined with my patience. Secondly the lease on the gasser left me with a buyout a the end that was pretty close to what 4 year old gas 250s were selling for at the time I leased. The buyout a the end of the diesel lease is over $12k lower than 4 year old diesel 250s were selling for at the time of leasing. Those 4 year old diesels were 6.4's and I'm betting that the 6.7 holds its value better than the 6.4s based on durability etc. So in the end I pay an extra $10k for the diesel and I get it back at the end of my lease. Overall I'm up on the diesel but I gotta put in more upfront.OK - Let's do the math as you say.
36,000 miles / 25 MPG = 1440 gallons of diesel x $3.90 = $5,616 diesel cost.
36,000 miles / 15 MPG = 2400 gallons of gas x $3.40 = $8,160 gas cost.
So you will save $2,544 at the pump from having a diesel engine and pay $8,000 more at the dealer to get it.
For the diesel to pay for itself as you say then you have to keep it way beyond "warranty".
It is a narrow range for me where a gas superduty works, not that it can't for some people but for me its a slim set of factors. Like if I was towing a RV over 12k lbs a few times a year, didn't put a lot of miles on, and wanted a newer truck. Under 12k with low overall towing mileage and I'd go to a F150... My F150 with the 5.0 towed a lot of weight very nicely, in fact I liked it better than towing with a 5.4. The ecoboost or if you must 6.2 in a F150 has a lot of towing potential. The newer generation of trucks are all overbuilt compared to the standard of 7-10 years ago.
I will say this; when I put my foot on the skinny pedal it feels awesome, this truck moves pretty sick for weighing like 8k-ish. All that aside I ended up landing a good gig where I don't need to pull the trailer anymore and I"m wishing I had kept my F150... In my case even if I can make the numbers work, I can't justify the truck anymore which is too bad.
Yes I'd buy a gasser again. I love my 2015 SD CC 6.2. If I ever buy another diesel, I will delete it immediately and forget my warranty. The dependability of the gasser is nice though. The turbo issues with my 6.7 left me a little gun shy. The power of the diesel is awesome though.
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I started this thread when I had a 2012 F-350 6.7. I ended buying a 2013 F-150 ecoboost KR. Today I ordered a 2015 F-350 6.2 KR 3.73. The ecoboost power is awesome but the MPGs are not as advertised. For a 12.4 mpg average I would rather drive a Super Duty. I will post pictures when it arrives.
Aren't the Lariat and KR F150s just as expensive as the gasser SDs? I briefly checked out the F150s and for the same money, I'd rather have more truck.I started this thread when I had a 2012 F-350 6.7. I ended buying a 2013 F-150 ecoboost KR. Today I ordered a 2015 F-350 6.2 KR 3.73. The ecoboost power is awesome but the MPGs are not as advertised. For a 12.4 mpg average I would rather drive a Super Duty. I will post pictures when it arrives.
Also looked at 150's but stopped when I realized you could only get a Crew Cab with a short bed.Aren't the Lariat and KR F150s just as expensive as the gasser SDs? I briefly checked out the F150s and for the same money, I'd rather have more truck.
I guess Im old school, I want a regular cab 4x4
Yes, there's that too. A 5'6" bed on the F150 supercrew vs 6'9" bed on a SD short bed.Also looked at 150's but stopped when I realized you could only get a Crew Cab with a short bed.
I think your driving at 60mph all the time on hiway with no stops with the 2015's! My 2015 gasser with 4.30, 20" wheels, pulling nothing gets about 12-13 combined mpg now. The diesels depending how you drive the are getting way less than 25???...especially in short stop and go trips cause of the regens.....here is central NY diesel is well over $4/gal and gas is 3.70's to 3.80's atm!OK - Let's do the math as you say.
36,000 miles / 25 MPG = 1440 gallons of diesel x $3.90 = $5,616 diesel cost.
36,000 miles / 15 MPG = 2400 gallons of gas x $3.40 = $8,160 gas cost.
So you will save $2,544 at the pump from having a diesel engine and pay $8,000 more at the dealer to get it.
For the diesel to pay for itself as you say then you have to keep it way beyond "warranty".
Yes. I agree I was trying to show that even if you got 10mpg more from the diesel than the gas, it would take years to make up the extra cost for the diesel engine.I think your driving at 60mph all the time on hiway with no stops with the 2015's! My 2015 gasser with 4.30, 20" wheels, pulling nothing gets about 12-13 combined mpg now. The diesels depending how you drive the are getting way less than 25???...especially in short stop and go trips cause of the regens.....here is central NY diesel is well over $4/gal and gas is 3.70's to 3.80's atm!
From the reports on this forum, it seems the most MPG more you can get from the diesel over the gas is 5-7.
This would confirm that it would take keeping the diesel to over 150K miles just to "break even" on the engine cost. Not to mention the routine maintenance cost would be higher for diesel.
Bottom line, if you do not need a diesel for towing, do not get one. It will only pay for itself in fuel savings it you keep it for a lot of miles which many do.
And yes, I live where it is very flat so I get better MPG and I go easy on the pedal. Average is 14.5.
Friend of mine had a gas truck a 2000 Drw 2wd V10 gas had 130K miles on it and the motor was still running strong but the transmission was getting soft and it was getting to need some front end work he traded while it was still running and looking good. In 130K the only thing done to the motor was one set of plugs, 2 fuel filters and one belt.
He traded/ordered a 2013 F350 DRW 2WD Lariat 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears. He tows A Hitch Hiker Premiere Fifth Wheel on a Full-time basis. He has towed for many years. So it can be done if you do not want the Diesel. Just a matter of preference imho.
Scott
He traded/ordered a 2013 F350 DRW 2WD Lariat 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears. He tows A Hitch Hiker Premiere Fifth Wheel on a Full-time basis. He has towed for many years. So it can be done if you do not want the Diesel. Just a matter of preference imho.
Scott
Any idea how much weight he was towing
I tow my 24' boat with no probs!
My friend is traveling right now. Usually he answers e-mails in the morning. I sent him a message asking how much his trailer weighs.Any idea how much weight he was towing
I will get back to you when he answers.
Scott
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