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8v71 Detroit Diesel John Deere

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#1 ·
Hi, would anyone know the deep specifics of an old Detroit? I have a 1967 John Deere 5020 with a 8v71 Na Detroit re-power. I bought the tractor close to 15 years ago and was never able to run it because it had an arms length of issues. Now I've started a full restoration on it and I've had an in frame completed on the Detroit. I must have called a dozen places to rebuild the engine however no one would mess it and finally the diesel/semi shop that has done work for our power stroke said they would do it because the lead mechanic has "some" DD 2 stroke experience. The engine only has 10 hours on it and the John Deere dealership put it on their PTO water dyno and at 1800 RPM with rebuilt S55 injectors it's making 170hp. I feel that's a bit low and I'm wanting to know what could be the issue. If anyone could enlighten me I'd greatly appreciate it!
I've attempted to attach pictures so hopefully they come thru.
 

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#5 · (Edited)
2100 is max RPM for an 8V71. I drove a lo-boy plus logging truck with one for about 2+ years and then spent decades working on them plus Cummins, etc. They may have been derated in horsepower for an ag tractor, but in diesel trucks the normal horsepower was 318 which is what they were commonly called, a 318 Detroit Screamer. However, for some reason I remember the one I drove was derated to 280HP. It's been a long time, but if I remember right, to up the horsepower to 318 you just advanced the cam timing gears one tooth and used different injectors. I remember we also maintained a stationary 318 at an inmate camp. It powered a huge generator that furnished the juice for the whole camp. That thing ran 24/7 near max RPM year in and year out unless shut down for maintenance. Tough old engines.
It was built with standard pistons as well.
Far as I know, that's all that's available, you buy new pistons and liners as a kit which of course is factory-standard.

You're definitely taxing my memory, there should have been a long 2" by maybe 10 or 12" sheet metal strip attached to one of the valve covers with ALL the engine specs on it for that particular engine.
 
#6 ·
Thanks LMJD, I attempted to post the data tag picture but I'm unsure if it went thru. To my understanding according to the serial number it's a 1948 engine and the data plate shows it was revised in 1959 however there is no telling what has been done to it over the years. We bought the tractor at a farm auction and it's to my understanding the old farmer is the one who re powered it with the Detroit. Some things were definitely done as a farm fix on it haha. I was expecting more power than 170hp with those injectors. I'd like to think the timing is set at standard however I don't know because the engine wasn't removed from the frame and the timing gears aren't easily accessible.
 
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